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February 2004 - C64 Related NewsHave a nice february...
Studio Version of Rob Hubbard?s Thrust FEB 08 2004 16:50
A new game in the making FEB 12 2004 19:38
TOW seeks C64 coder/gfx artist for intro FEB 15 2004 15:27
CREST FEB 28 2004 13:05

[1] : 01. Feb 2004 17:20   
Turrican 3 news. Mhm. I’ve tried to contact AEG about this subject on 30.1.2004 but he haven’t answered yet.
CreaMD

[2] : 01. Feb 2004 18:16   
X-2004 website at partyscope updated and "Commodore 64 vs. PC" moved to Related News (yet January Related News).

[3] : 01. Feb 2004 21:35   
nafcom said to get excited. what are you waiting for?
fade

[4] : 01. Feb 2004 22:18   
Ahem... "Read "64" by Player One" links section... www.c64.sk |schwedische Commodore-Seite C64 !?!!?!?! ;-)))
CreaMD

[5] : 01. Feb 2004 23:54   
Fade well, it’s direct translation from german language. Seems like the original writer is a dominant type ;-) So be excited and shut-up ;-)
CreaMD

[6] : 01. Feb 2004 23:56   
@fade: I must anyway admit, that it sounds funny, indeed :)

[7] : 02. Feb 2004 10:00   
all in the name of fun.. really trying hard to not say anything about dominant germans :)
fade

[8] : 02. Feb 2004 10:11   
The pun was of course intended ;-))
CreaMD

[9] : 02. Feb 2004 13:34   
Did someone say "dominant"...? Anyway, fixed Nafcom’s post so that the target command isn’t part of the URL (it doesn’t 404 now =-) and shrunk it a bit...

[10] : 02. Feb 2004 13:57   
@tmr yes, sorry :-/ (Shame on me!)...

[11] : 02. Feb 2004 15:55   
ICH WILL DIR FRESSEN!
gpz

[12] : 02. Feb 2004 18:41   
wow, old fashion :)
Nafcom

[13] : 03. Feb 2004 13:11   
It’s "www.dienstagstreff.de", with two f. Someone please correct it. And what is the url "http://skern/" supposed to tell me? ;-)

[14] : 03. Feb 2004 16:24   
Oh yeah, yet another forum coming up... nice try... ;-)

[15] : 03. Feb 2004 17:04   
hehe

[16] : 03. Feb 2004 17:12   
Is anonymous giggling already violating the laws of online security? ;-)

[17] : 03. Feb 2004 20:29   
Thanx to whoever fixed my stupidly long news title... hehe :)
MTR1975

[18] : 04. Feb 2004 03:59   
ME ;-)
CreaMD

[19] : 05. Feb 2004 11:45   
legal copies of GEOS! now thats something that will rock the scene!
gpz

[20] : 05. Feb 2004 11:52   
GPZ: What can I say... www.c64.sk |schwedische Commodore-Seite C64 ! ;-))) But anyway, if anyone is interested he has the chance. Whether it is scene thing or not, it’s an iteresting stuff. (that Maurice finally got up again and start to maintain his bussiness. Hopefully he will start to ship SCPU again ;-).
CreaMD

[21] : 05. Feb 2004 17:33   
Ooh, more SCPUs means more people to throw in for the CSDoom pot... speaking of which, any takers for coding it yet?

[22] : 06. Feb 2004 09:46   
Added LCP 2004 to the partyscope.

[23] : 06. Feb 2004 10:43   
tmr: go for it! it has never been so easy to waste your time on something about 20 ppl care about :o) might be much easier now too since you can write all your code in geowrite!!!!
gpz

[24] : 06. Feb 2004 13:12   
G: i wasn’t offering, i’m not buying an SCPU myself... =-)

[25] : 06. Feb 2004 22:07   
@ 13: Improved Skern’s posting - now it’s the way it should have been ;-)

[26] : 06. Feb 2004 22:50   
@25: readable? (:
pi

[27] : 06. Feb 2004 23:17   
@ 25: yeah ;-)

Added HobbyTronic 2004 to the partyscope.

[28] : 07. Feb 2004 12:29   
anyone knows why csdb is not reachable?
shk/role

[29] : 07. Feb 2004 14:20   
@28, yes the server is down till Monday!
Nafcom

[30] : 07. Feb 2004 17:08   
Okay, it’s earlier up than exspected :)

[31] : 08. Feb 2004 17:02   
tmr: you FOOL! do you realize what all you are missing? muhaha
gpz

[32] : 08. Feb 2004 20:21   
Beta’d the MP3 mix of Thrust and added a note to the Mazezam post ’cos the URL is bust and the same one came up when i Googled... And i do G, i’m missing Metal Dust and... um... =-)

[33] : 08. Feb 2004 20:39   
Added the download link to Mazezam at c64.sk. The site seems to work for me.
CreaMD

[34] : 08. Feb 2004 22:39   
wtf is wrong with the recording of rob hubbards thrust at marc girards site? =)

[35] : 08. Feb 2004 22:56   
@33 Works for me 100%, too!

[36] : 09. Feb 2004 00:23   
[34] it’s a little faster than you might expect, because he’s in NTSC-land. It’s a good version though - and he’s worked with some very famous people. Cirque du soleil, IBM, Celine Dion...
Merman

[37] : 09. Feb 2004 13:16   
My site works. It’s seems to have been overload yesterday.

[38] : 09. Feb 2004 14:41   
Working with Celine Dion is enough reason to beta it, but the main one is that it’s not a C64 product so it goes to beta. =-)

[39] : 09. Feb 2004 18:44   
MazeZAM - Another first-release for Blazon :)
Richard

[40] : 09. Feb 2004 20:15   
Richard... please shut up, we’re all able to read.

[41] : 09. Feb 2004 20:53   
T.M.R - Bye, got stuff to do :)
Richard

[42] : 09. Feb 2004 21:07   
... and shut up yourself :)
Richard

[43] : 09. Feb 2004 21:26   
no, you shut up!
hollowman

[44] : 09. Feb 2004 21:48   
And you shut up too. Phew, this is becoming a silly habbit of mine. ;o)
Richard

[45] : 09. Feb 2004 22:15   
ich will k?he!
gpz

[46] : 10. Feb 2004 05:41   
BLAZON is my favourite lamers only group. They could add the levelskip and end sequence viewer buttons, which were included in the source, but they didn’t even look.

[47] : 10. Feb 2004 10:57   
..but doing that someone else could have snatched the firstrelease-points!

[48] : 10. Feb 2004 14:17   
And as we know, everyone wants the first release just so that Richard can do their PR all over the web...

[49] : 10. Feb 2004 15:57   
updated too complex links (seems like the orig. link was pointing to arachnophobia?)
CreaMD

[50] : 10. Feb 2004 17:11   
Back to Marc Girard: not bad IMHO, but I think Boz and Mixer did also very good versions of Trust, and even in PAL speed. :)
Wotnau

[51] : 10. Feb 2004 20:06   
Hello. Thanks for the nice comments, I just wanted to share some of the work I’ve made. I didn’t mean to break any rules there and I thought that it might be fun for C-64 fans to know about this.

[52] : 10. Feb 2004 20:34   
Marc, it’s okay to post C64 related stuff to C64.sk just take it easy if we move it into beta news. After all it’s also part of this site. Many people here like to listen to MP3 remixes etc. just we try to keep this site strongly focused on C64 scene and it’s community. Whatever you decide thanx for visiting and supporting C64.sk
CreaMD

[53] : 10. Feb 2004 21:27   
you people are all so mean and cruel. Hey did Hokuto Force put their intro on the Covenant demo or what? :)
you know who smartarse..

[54] : 10. Feb 2004 23:39   
Does anyone know if there is a firstrelease race on the Speccy scene too? There are 77 entries in their crap game compo for 2003, so that was a lot of points to be earned during last year.. ;-)
Anders Carlsson

[55] : 10. Feb 2004 23:46   
;-))
CreaMD

[56] : 10. Feb 2004 23:53   
mean and cruel, *or* totally awesome. (couldn’t resist)

[57] : 11. Feb 2004 02:56   
@54 Hey Anders, my game isn’t crap. If you are interested in doing Vic-20 port, just ask, and I will give you sources and help. It can be adapted for unexpanded one, just look at the Apple 2 one.

[58] : 11. Feb 2004 17:44   
[36] i don’t have a problem with the speed, it’s rather that essential parts of the recording were missing (i.e., most of the time there’s one channel missing). never had a ntsc machine, but does it really mess up the tunage so bad?

[59] : 11. Feb 2004 22:56   
i’m just glad someone did what i have been saying for the last 12 years. next time, just dont use stupid ntsee,use a cream coated beauty with original black keys for ultimate style..
once again fade preaches to you..

[60] : 11. Feb 2004 23:49   
I can’t even reach the tune...
Stryyker

[61] : 13. Feb 2004 09:36   
Yes! Another game in the making! Thank you Richard! But next time a bit more information please .. think about your fans!
Tdj

[62] : 13. Feb 2004 09:41   
So he isn’t making a break for the PC game industry after all? Too bad..

[63] : 13. Feb 2004 09:49   
Cadaver, you’re just being sarcastic. We both know you love the fact that he stays with us.
Tdj

[64] : 13. Feb 2004 09:59   
But the PC industry is desperate for ideas&skill of his calibre as well!

[65] : 13. Feb 2004 10:51   
You are right, I should not be this selfish. Go Richard go (away) !!
Tdj

[66] : 13. Feb 2004 14:49   
Beta’d Richard’s rather pointless self promotion...

[67] : 13. Feb 2004 15:33   
Maybe there are some cross-development tools like SDL so Richard can make one game and release it on many platforms at the same time? Or the desperate PC people can hope for a C64 emulator advanced enough to play the game.
Anders Carlsson

[68] : 13. Feb 2004 18:34   
@TMR:"Beta?d Richard?s rather pointless self promotion..."

Pointless? Some people might be interested. :)

Richard

[69] : 13. Feb 2004 18:36   
richard, not very likely
hollowman

[70] : 13. Feb 2004 19:24   
Keep it in beta-news anyway :)
Richard

[71] : 13. Feb 2004 19:42   
Anders: but it must be made sure that the proper nag-requester is still displayed, even if the emulator is advanced :)

[72] : 13. Feb 2004 22:28   
Richard: i had no intention of doing anything but.

[73] : 13. Feb 2004 22:52   
my arse with a sledgehammer (hi tmr) :)
fadesuperkomedieeen

[74] : 15. Feb 2004 14:36   
I just want to say farewell to the C64 scene. Being kicked for talking on c64 vs speccy topic, simply shows how narrowminded are the C64 sceners. It wasn’t great staying here. Bye.

[75] : 15. Feb 2004 15:51   
Dude, why are you being such a pussy? Defend your point of view and stop being such a crybaby like the Arachophobia Crew is. And btw, yes, the Speccy sucks !!!
Mihai

[76] : 15. Feb 2004 16:10   
"TOW seeks C64 coder/gfx artist for intro" moved to related news. For personal requests please use C64 scene database ( www.c64scene.net )forums.
CreaMD

[77] : 15. Feb 2004 16:14   
drHirudo? C64 sceners narrowminded? ;-) C64 scene gives a /insert your favourite 4 letter word here/ about debates about other computers coz it is minding it's own business, but I saw a lot of trash produced by comp.sys.sinclair posters being answered by comp.sys.cbm users. But how much c.s.c. or c.s.s. is about scene? Not much. Active and creative people don’t need to argue they live for other things. Coder does that with routine! ;-)
CreaMD

[78] : 15. Feb 2004 20:22   
C64 is not the place to discuss Speccy, ask Zilog. Why on earth would we even bother? Get serious. No great loss I guess if you cant take a hint and keep to the topic itself in a Irc chan. Sigh...
Trazan

[79] : 16. Feb 2004 09:59   
Wtf is dr Hirudo?
Tdj

[80] : 16. Feb 2004 10:45   
Someone who made a Hubbard remix...

[81] : 16. Feb 2004 11:19   
[79]+[80] Dr Hirudo did the conversion of Mazeazam, or whatever it was called. Marc Girard did the Thrust remix...
Merman

[82] : 16. Feb 2004 12:10   
Oh, sorry for the confusion. :-)

[83] : 16. Feb 2004 16:34   
I’m still confused .. what’s a mazeazam? Can you eat it?
Tdj

[84] : 16. Feb 2004 17:12   
MazeZam is a puzzle game, sort of like Sokhoban (If I spelled it right). You gotta shit blocks to be able to squeeze through to the exit. Nice little game I have to admit.
That game coder, Rich.B

[85] : 16. Feb 2004 17:42   
Shit blocks? Bet that hurts...

MazeZam is quite nice but the graphics are a little fiddly (the notes to Blazon about trainers in the source are very funny =-) and it reminds me vaguely of the Firebird Thunderbirds puzzle/action game...

[86] : 16. Feb 2004 19:01   
Correction:
"MazeZam is a puzzle game, sort of like Sokhoban (If I spelled it right). You gotta shift blocks to be able to squeeze through to the exit. Nice little game, I have to admit".
That lazy coder, Richard (again)

[87] : 16. Feb 2004 22:08   
Aaah.. Rich, it was much better in the first version ;-)
CreaMD

[88] : 17. Feb 2004 15:23   
yeah, at first i was really tempted to leech but now i’m so disappointed :(
gpz

[89] : 17. Feb 2004 16:05   
[88] Yeah, imagine shitting blocks to lose enough weigh (fatness) so you can squeeze through the really really small exit. That must be a really cool nice little game I must admit! ;-)
CreaMD

[90] : 18. Feb 2004 04:30   
Hey. I guess the board-op got me wrong, I wasn’t complaning about my beta’d topic, it was more of an appology for posting it there! :) Anyway, for those who are interested, I started working on a new remix-> Big Deal. You read it first here! :P For those who didn’t get the URL the first time-> www.marcgirard.com/thrust

[91] : 18. Feb 2004 09:35   
Marc, why so negative? I know converting tunes is no big deal but still ..
Tdj

[92] : 18. Feb 2004 17:43   
The coverdisk compiling news, for Commodore Scene is unfortunately, true. I’ll be passing the role over to someone else, as my work situation will be turned into 3-shift basis. Therefore it will affect my Commodore activities, except for weekends. This will take effect from 1st April 2004!
Richard

[93] : 18. Feb 2004 23:21   
oh the humanity!
fade

[94] : 18. Feb 2004 23:27   
Don’t look at me, i’m not here...

[95] : 18. Feb 2004 23:34   
Early April Fools joke?
Stryyker

[96] : 18. Feb 2004 23:56   
Seems like at least 3 ppl are interested to become compilers of the compilation?!?
CreaMD

[97] : 19. Feb 2004 08:50   
offtopic here, but does anyone have a working email addy to jtr?
dwangi

[98] : 19. Feb 2004 09:08   
E-mail me what you have, or what you neeed. Maybe it works, but he doesn’t check e-mails or reply. If it’s important I can send him SMS.
CreaMD

[99] : 19. Feb 2004 15:30   

[100] : 20. Feb 2004 21:01   
Oh gosh, I wonder what the CS cover disk be like if Fade compiled it? :)
Richard

[101] : 20. Feb 2004 23:07   
it would be a best of rock n role, arachnophobia and scene world disk, then i’d probably fill up the other 662 blocks with Australian demos and pictures of naked Econovans!
fade

[102] : 20. Feb 2004 23:08   
[watches everyone get confused by the econovan remark]
fade

[103] : 20. Feb 2004 23:49   
I’m more confused by the fact that you expect getting 2 blocks worth of decent material from those mags.
Tdj

[104] : 21. Feb 2004 00:41   
A block doesn’t have to be an entire 254 bytes...?

[105] : 21. Feb 2004 01:48   
i’m even more amazed that i forgot that a disk has two sides.. baaaaah!!
fade

[106] : 21. Feb 2004 11:34   
Ho, ho, that’s silly Fade, buddy. Not to worry, we have found someone to take over my role, compiling the Commodore Scene cover disk. The best of luck to them.
Richard

[107] : 21. Feb 2004 20:14   
congrats to LapDancers, do a good job now
fadenyuk

[108] : 22. Feb 2004 17:45   
*sigh*
CreaMD

[109] : 23. Feb 2004 03:26   
Is it just me who can’t get drHirudo’s site - still...?!

[110] : 23. Feb 2004 09:53   
Yes, it’s just you. The rest of us have been there all night, partying like it’s 1999.
Tdj

[111] : 23. Feb 2004 10:03   
TDJ: but it’s 2004... what are you doing there five years before the game was released?!!

[112] : 23. Feb 2004 10:50   
Well i have been partying there since 1989, I had it first but you just didnt know
Secret Moron

[113] : 23. Feb 2004 10:51   
and i will bash you to proof you are lamer
Secret Moron

[114] : 23. Feb 2004 11:20   
It’s 2004? Really? Then why the hell am I still using a c64?
Tdj

[115] : 23. Feb 2004 12:26   
Coz you are socialist and they love to carry about the weak.
CreaMD

[116] : 23. Feb 2004 12:27   
Ahem.. that should have been a rhetoric question of course ;-)
CreaMD

[117] : 23. Feb 2004 18:25   
drHirudo?s site works fine for me here in Canadaland.
Macbeth

[118] : 23. Feb 2004 18:48   
Yep, drHirudo’s site seems to work fine.
Moloch

[119] : 23. Feb 2004 19:04   
Well, it doesn’t work for me. Maybe even someone else can upload it to CSDb then?

[120] : 23. Feb 2004 19:05   
What? No music in BoxWorld?
Richard

[121] : 23. Feb 2004 20:08   
@ 120: Complaining but still releasing it? Interesting...

[122] : 23. Feb 2004 20:35   
It’s quite a good game :)
Richard

[123] : 24. Feb 2004 01:14   
Boxland works for me. Although that dude with the MP3’s don’t work for me...
Stryyker

[124] : 24. Feb 2004 01:18   
I can’t affort to get a proper provider for hosting freeware stuff. No music in the game since nobody of the C64 sceners is willing to compose some for me! (and yes I asked {several times}). I released C64 version cause I saw it as a easy port from the Apple 2 versions. And I complained since seemed that I by accident meet some ’no-nice’ C64 users. Hope these sentences answer all the reactions from above. cya

[125] : 24. Feb 2004 01:39   
Get a provider that actually leaves the site connected, even Geoshitties would be better with it?s crappy bandwidth restrictions. Actually, i’ve got a couple of gigs on my server, get a forwarding URL and talk to me perhaps. As for music, Richard there would have done it if you?d asked him, i know four musicians who?d possibly be able to help and there are more on Lemon64, CSDb and hanging around here - i don?t remember seeing you ask in any of those places?

[126] : 24. Feb 2004 01:41   
The Sweet release is nice. I had a hard time installing the game to D64 ;)

[127] : 24. Feb 2004 18:18   
TMR’s right. I would be able to help with music if asked nicely :) If you have any future games to develop for the C64 and you need music. I can easily help you out!
Richard

[128] : 24. Feb 2004 21:40   
I also wonder why you didn’t find anyone.. but then i didn’t saw any requests anywhere...
pi

[129] : 25. Feb 2004 00:01   
I’m a working musician, and it’s hard enough keeping up with the latest SONGS... never mind trying to learn GAME songs.... gimme a break.

[130] : 25. Feb 2004 01:20   
i can find three or four musicians quite easily, the offer still stands for hosting too - un-mung the address below.

[131] : 25. Feb 2004 03:46   
I asked in #C-64 and got kicked.

[132] : 25. Feb 2004 05:01   
@130 I saw ’ISDA’ closing site with freeware puckman clones, and I made so many ’commercial’ games clones (King Kong, BoxWorld, simple Oric puckman, BreakOric etc... Not to mention the AntiISDA warrior), so it’s just a matter of time till they find the site and close it and I don’t want anybody else to take the trouble instead of me. By using the free hosts although with low quality keeps me more mobile. If they delete the site - that’s ok. I will register somewhere else and host it there. If I use paid service - the money might went to nowhere.

[133] : 25. Feb 2004 09:54   
drHirudo, at #c-64 you were kicked by an idividual person, so blame that person. At #c-64 there are too many people caring about what is good and what is not for #c-64. You are not the only person who has to live with that. Anyway, the best place to ask musicians for help, is to register in the C64 scene database (by releasing C64 productions you practically became a c64 scener) and ask people there, in the forums.
CreaMD

[134] : 25. Feb 2004 10:05   
At the moment, half the world can?t *see* your free host. As i said, talk to me; if the IDSA want a word they?re welcome to get in touch because i?ve a few words i?d like to say to them in return...

[135] : 25. Feb 2004 11:26   
Updated the BoxWorld news item by including a Download Link for the version by "Sweet".

[136] : 25. Feb 2004 14:32   
Maybe those freeware Pac-Man clones blatantly had stolen the graphics from the coin-op Pac-Man, so it was a partitial copyright infringement? To my knowledge, there are no patents on Donkey Kong, Break-Out, Q*Bert, Defender etc, so The ESA (as they are called these days)probably can’t operate on behalf of patent holders if they threaten hosts to take down pages. In most of the cases the threat seems to be signed by a non-existing person too, because if you answer the message almost never you get a response (I’ve heard). But yes, if you can get hosting somewhere else which doesn’t throw ten popups and a spyware installer whenever you visit your page, that can only be good news.
Anders Carlsson

[137] : 25. Feb 2004 15:09   
Anders, what about Back to the roots site, which was closed 2 times and they have all the rights. (actually the idea of AntiISDA came after the story of Back2roots). Watch out for AntiISDA 2 (Codepasters revenge) ;) P.S. Anders on every 8 bit forum I visit I see your name. How do you manage to read such big flood of messages and mostly answer? It’s a mistery to me, or there are several Anders Carlssons sharing the same e-mail adress, perhaps? :) MacGyver - a mirror working site is put at http://80.0.9.63/drhirudo/ Thank TMR for that.

[138] : 25. Feb 2004 16:00   
Well, didn’t Back to Roots deal with (previously) commercial Amiga stuff, or did they only host free remakes of ditto? In many cases, it is true that former IDSA and BSA attack randomly - remember the request to remove games from WoS which they had written permit to host or the threat to a German university to remove the OpenOffice mirror, as it infringed Microsoft. Of course, if you mix your own stuff with other titles of uncertain distribution status, you should be careful.

Yes, I hang around on many places, but I’m trying to become more anti-social as the years go. Some day I’ll succeed in ignoring the communities and other people and only concentrate on myself.

Anders Carlsson

[139] : 25. Feb 2004 17:20   
@130 I saw ?ISDA? closing site with freeware puckman clones, and I made so many ?commercial? games clones (King Kong, BoxWorld, simple Oric puckman, BreakOric etc... Not to mention the AntiISDA warrior), so it?s just a matter of time till they find the site and close it and I don?t want anybody else to take the trouble instead of me. By using the free hosts although with low quality keeps me more mobile. If they delete the site - that?s ok. I will register somewhere else and host it there. If I use paid service - the money might went to nowhere.

I think those IDSA people are complete and utter sods. May they die in vain!


[140] : 25. Feb 2004 17:31   
They’re called the ESA this week... from what i understand, a fair few of the shutdown notices were due to their spidering the sites in question and picking up on names of zipfiles - for example, quake.zip might actually be Mike Singleton’s Quake Minus One.

[141] : 25. Feb 2004 17:41   
However, ESA has one good purpose - to hunt down permits to distribute old software, preferrably as untouched as possible. Sites who do so (WoS, Lemon64 etc) can display these written permits to anyone who claims to represent the copyright holders. Sure, not all software houses will allow distribution - we already know Codemasters, Electronic Arts, Capcom, Rare etc (not to mention Sega, Sony and Nintendo) will deny with a good reason, but several of the others, both folded, still alive and possibly even actively developing will allow under certain limitations. This is however a time-consuming job to track people down and wait for responses.
Anders Carlsson

[142] : 26. Feb 2004 00:58   
funny how ppl care so much about the ESA in a scene that is mostly based on piracy. muhaha rotfl.
gpz

[143] : 26. Feb 2004 01:05   
Like i said... i want a few words with ’em. =-)

[144] : 26. Feb 2004 10:59   
[142]: Does it somehow change the copyright status if the scene (whoever that is, juridically) claims it was brought up on piracy (but now is feeding itself with own productions and a few jokers releasing other people’s work for good old times sake)? Maybe ESA wouldn’t care if there were no emulators or transfer tools, because then the software wouldn’t spread easily.

(so, it is people like the VICE team and X1541 Shop who in the end are responsible for dr Hirudo’s site being brought down ;-)

Anders Carlsson

[145] : 27. Feb 2004 05:24   
you and only you are responsible for making your side stable. bah. kids.
gpz

[146] : 27. Feb 2004 13:07   
if any of the swedes who plan to go to floppy are reading this - everything turned out fucking wrong here .. i got my stomach fucked up last night and couldn’t get my damn bus right in time :(
dalezy

[147] : 27. Feb 2004 16:44   
If that’s the case then why don’t everyone start making new games :D
Richard

[148] : 27. Feb 2004 20:20   
I guess vice and star commander are to blame who made people spreading old games so widely.....
blame me, blame pi

[149] : 28. Feb 2004 04:08   
No, the emulators are not responsible for the games spreading. I had some MAME games long before they were added to the emulator list. What makes me sick of IDSA is that they ruined sites like FUNET and Magyar C64HK, but pirate servers with TOSEC sets like PEmu stay online for years. There are too many places where you can find software (binary newsgroups, IRC, web, FTPs) and assuming that you are not a lamer, you can easily find and leech everything. But while this is bad for the software developers, it’s good for the CDRW and DVDRW producers ;) And this killed the swapping business and I am ex-swapper now.

[150] : 28. Feb 2004 07:03   
stamp licker you mean
gpz

[151] : 28. Feb 2004 14:11   
Moved "crest" to related news
CreaMD

[152] : 29. Feb 2004 05:06   
gpz: I see your sarcazm but don’t like it.

[153] : 29. Feb 2004 11:41   
;-D Dr.Hirudo you should’t take Groepaz too hard, I’m sure he had licked few stamps too in past. Don’t get too attached to your past.
CreaMD

[154] : 29. Feb 2004 12:11   
Pardon me, but without people swapping, what good would the scene be? producing demos never to be spread? Cool idea...Machines to me is about the way of obtaining software to use, else its just another box in the collection. C64 was divine in this case...really...now kill me!
Trazan

[155] : 29. Feb 2004 13:28   
Trazan, yeah.
CreaMD

[156] : 29. Feb 2004 16:11   
creamd: in theory yes, in practice... why lick stamps when you can draw them yourself? :o)
gpz

[157] : 29. Feb 2004 19:35   
Draw stamps..hehe...good idea...:)
Trazan

[158] : 29. Feb 2004 19:57   
[156] L33T! ;-)
CreaMD

[159] : 29. Feb 2004 20:25   
In the case of Funet, it is a state financed university network, so I understand why Marko decided to take offline (not remove) all titles which were not clear to be published. Anyone independent with the means to host a such FTP could take over, and there are some partitial mirrors. Of course it is easier to shoot at a sitting bird than one fleeing. Anyone with the nerves can take the titles offline, question the ESA letter (but probably never receive a response) and later put it back up again waiting for another threat.
Anders Carlsson

[160] : 29. Feb 2004 20:29   
Hmm.. regarding the Sid Wine 3 compo; maybe one should entitle his entry Viagra just to see how the related advertisments banner to the right of page reacts. From what I understand, it selects advertisments related to the page content (see for yourself :-).
Anders Carlsson

[161] : 29. Feb 2004 22:21   
dalezy, too bad. a fucked up stomach would have made you fit in perfectly in the flt corner
hollowman

[162] : 01. Mar 2004 15:52   
Apologies for delay, I had a terrible toothache during the whole weekend.
CreaMD

[163] : 01. Mar 2004 15:52   
I mean.. delay with VN#41.
CreaMD

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