GT2
GOAT TRACKER 2
MUSIC COMPO
Voting will last until at least about 30-40 votesheets are collected.
Voting system (standard):
- Give each tune from 1-9 points (9 for the best, 1 worst)
- send your votes to following address: creamd@c64.sk
- please use the following format (example):
- 5,4,8,5,6,1,2,9,4,2 (ten values divided by comma)
SNG files (music data) will be released after voting phase and will be distributed with GT2 as demotunes. check the tunes in the article
Results coming up soon...
[1] :
02. Jul 2005 01:28  
Hmm, a black goat of the woods. Wonder if we get lots of necro black metal.
[2] :
02. Jul 2005 13:31  
Why not a C64.SK SID compo, than Goat Compo - Unless that is later on in the year ;)
Concerned composer
[3] :
02. Jul 2005 14:32  
[2] SID compo is (almost) always starting on 8. october.
CreaMD
[4] :
02. Jul 2005 14:37  
GT2 songs will be amazing!!!!
Nata
[5] :
02. Jul 2005 23:41  
Just a reminder to all participants: send all the commandline options you were using when composing along with your entry. Or simply write down the SID model, speed multiplier, hardrestart ADSR value etc.
Also, I think .sng files shouldnt be published until submitting phase closes - otherwise I will personally be tempted to snatch some tricks from them, yea I know Im lame ;)
rndl
[6] :
03. Jul 2005 02:26  
Btw. I would like permission to rename all song filenames to one lowercase word, like Unleash The Fucking Fury -> unleash.sng
[7] :
03. Jul 2005 10:44  
MSDOS purist? :)
puterstar
[8] :
03. Jul 2005 11:32  
[5] Good point. SNG files will be released after the compo, good idea, thanx. [6] I don?t think you will have problem with that, if the full songname can be stored inside the .sng file.
CreaMD
[9] :
03. Jul 2005 12:18  
sounds interesting that the development proccess of a great crossplatform music editor goes on. now compiling the linux version , playing around a bit and try to compete :)
[10] :
03. Jul 2005 12:37  
People will steal our tricks afterwards. :_(
I wasted a lot of time to learn how to compose and
make "good" instruments, so that is (%&??#)
The only thing we can do is to erase all instrument-names (!?!)
and and split up *.sng with SngSplit.exe.... hehe ;)
And the other thing I find important: everyone should write
his - e-mail - to first instrument name
Nata
[11] :
03. Jul 2005 13:13  
[10] Everyone can try to reproduce Jeroen?s style, or Hubbard?s style or Steve Rowland?s style of composing and sounds, but noone can steal their talent. ;-)
CreaMD
[12] :
03. Jul 2005 13:29  
Since Goattracker is open source, I think there should be no problem with releasing the song files. Just consider it to be an Amiga mod where you can rip the samples from, and maybe even learn a few composing tricks.
Hein
[13] :
03. Jul 2005 13:37  
Plus you can reverse-engineer instruments anyway with (approximately) Cubic Player or Vacsid or (accurately) by dumping SID register data.
[14] :
03. Jul 2005 20:10  
where do you want these then? Im also up for liberating a few old editor files for people to learn from (my mistakes, mostly:) and generally do as they wish with
sack
[15] :
03. Jul 2005 22:33  
[10] - Id rather take that as a compliment if someone uses my instruments. That would mean I made them well ;)
rndl
[16] :
03. Jul 2005 23:46  
lasse, pity that tie note combined with arpeggios in wavetable doesnt work properly anymore :/ gonna fix it?
jammer
[17] :
04. Jul 2005 00:13  
Care to explain more accurately? The little I tested it worked just as I expected. GT2 has now different effecthandling in wavetable (actually, GT1.xx had none) - if you have nofrequency-change steps in wavetable, effects execute like normal while wavetable runs. It may be that youre relying on GT1.xx anomalies and expect that behaviour to be exactly duplicated, well then youre gonna be disappointed.
[18] :
04. Jul 2005 00:31  
it was someting like this:
one step - note, instrument (arpeggio in wavetable)
another step - different note, another instument with diferent wavetable and 300 effect in effect column
its impossible to do it now :)
jammer
[19] :
04. Jul 2005 00:39  
Jammer, It would be better to produce example in .sng ;-)
CreaMD
[20] :
04. Jul 2005 01:37  
Well, that trick isnt directly applicable anymore - remember how in GT1.xx instruments were confined to their own wavetable, now they can jump around as they wish. Ill see if some workaround can be made (preferably with player size not growing much)
[21] :
04. Jul 2005 03:25  
V2.05 has now "instrument legato" which I guess can roughly solve the problem (create a legato instrument - legato enabled with HR/1stwave param 00, then use 8XX to change startwaveform as you need)
[22] :
04. Jul 2005 08:51  
I wonder at which revision number GT2 will be at the end of the compo. I see that the deadline is the 15th; has it been from the beginning or is CreaMD extending it for every new tweak? :-)
Anders Carlsson
[23] :
04. Jul 2005 10:33  
[22] Question is? ;-) Do you really need the latest version of goat tracker to create your tune? Dont talk, walk. ;-)
CreaMD
[24] :
04. Jul 2005 13:25  
[13] - "Vacsid", never heard about this tool (c64 or PC?)
I prefer SID2MIDI text output: For this purpose i wrote a
table that can convert SID2MIDI wavetables to
GT relative/absolute notes, Pulsewidth and even
8580 filter-settings ;)
BUT, you have to do all by hand ....
Nata
[25] :
04. Jul 2005 13:27  
Its an old DOS program, very picky. Probably wont run at all in windows.
[26] :
04. Jul 2005 13:32  
Ok, in DosBox Emulator it would run, but for me this is to unflexible, however... ;)
Nata
[27] :
04. Jul 2005 15:28  
[24] What kind of table? I have been using the sid2midi text export for some time too, but can this actually converted in something more handy, read: easier to use?
Maha Ganesh
[28] :
04. Jul 2005 18:08  
Hmm, SID2MIDI output seems truly painful due to frequency & pulsewidth displayed in decimal.
[29] :
04. Jul 2005 19:56  
Hmm, for me it works fine
There isnt any painful: I made a list with all possible SID2MIDI/Goat settings
and there is nothing to do with calculator ;)
Nata
[30] :
05. Jul 2005 12:02  
Ah yet another GT compo.. Hope to see lotsa fine tunes comming up... looking forward to hear them:)
[31] :
05. Jul 2005 12:15  
Thanks for Siddump!
Maha Ganesh
[32] :
05. Jul 2005 12:17  
[30] GH - and how about some of yours?
CreaMD
[33] :
05. Jul 2005 13:14  
Having my birthday on 15july.. :) but its been a while I worked with GT.. maybe I can have a look at it sometime..
[34] :
05. Jul 2005 14:58  
[33] Same here.. but Im sure it will be fun ;-)
CreaMD
[35] :
05. Jul 2005 17:01  
First entry added.
CreaMD
[36] :
05. Jul 2005 18:05  
What sid model is it made for? Or doesn\t that matter?
Hein
[37] :
05. Jul 2005 18:21  
8580. It is set inside the sidfile.
rndl
[38] :
05. Jul 2005 18:30  
Ok, thanks..
Hein
[39] :
05. Jul 2005 18:46  
Why dump sid data to copy the others style? I prefer composers who got their own style, no matter how good they are :)
[40] :
05. Jul 2005 18:53  
Could be for learning purposes. I see nothing wrong in peeking into other peoples tricks (although I dont do that myself, at least not anymore)
rndl
[41] :
05. Jul 2005 19:17  
Yeah, especially some technical things, like hardrestart settings & timings are quite enlightening to see. But I dont think its very easy to copy the "soul" of a beautiful passage from a SID dump anyway..
[42] :
05. Jul 2005 20:24  
2nd entry added.
CreaMD
[43] :
05. Jul 2005 20:30  
2nd entry is PAL, 8580.
Short term memory loss
[44] :
05. Jul 2005 21:25  
I was about to say the same, erm, man whose name I dont want to spoil. ;-)
[45] :
05. Jul 2005 21:42  
Nice entries so far.. Im gonna steal that tom from the 2nd tune.
Hein
[46] :
05. Jul 2005 21:43  
;-))))
CreaMD
[47] :
05. Jul 2005 22:54  
God bless sid2sng.exe!
MONTSERRAT
[48] :
05. Jul 2005 22:57  
Um, where can I get that?
[49] :
06. Jul 2005 00:43  
But mp3tosid.exe may be even more useful, if it distinguished instruments, used advanced best-fit algorithms to create wavetables etc and also inserted the notation data. The more complex mp3 files may need to be converted with the -digi parameter to multiplex one or two digi channels on top. :) (hmm.. may be good material for a Aprils Fools joke)
Anders Carlsson
[50] :
06. Jul 2005 10:59  
- [47] - "sid2sng.exe" ?????!???!??, just a joke?
Nata
[51] :
06. Jul 2005 12:47  
I think he was talking about sng2sid.exe
Hein
[52] :
06. Jul 2005 12:56  
Hmm, another fictional utility?
[53] :
06. Jul 2005 13:01  
I think it was polyfoon-wav to mid.. mid2xm, xm2mod mod2sng.. ;)
[54] :
06. Jul 2005 14:20  
Musicians live a fictional life..
Hein
[55] :
06. Jul 2005 15:09  
Do they? *looks around*
rndl
[56] :
06. Jul 2005 15:15  
At least I do.. especially when Im inside the tunnel of sidvalues.
Hein
[57] :
06. Jul 2005 17:08  
Is that what is known as inSIDious reality?
Anders Carlsson
[58] :
06. Jul 2005 22:39  
Thats the point where the true genius rises from the technical swamp to create the appropriate moods with his musical talent...
Turtle
[59] :
07. Jul 2005 00:23  
i have an impression that $55 waveform is interpreted in totally different way (strange). what is more, legato instruments are inaudible after in the psid target files :|
jammer
[60] :
07. Jul 2005 00:42  
Jammer, I noticed no such thing (legato missing) when I just tested, with new version v2.06. Btw. this is probably worst possible place for bugreports.
[61] :
07. Jul 2005 08:40  
sorry. besides, i still got 2.05 :D
jammer
[62] :
07. Jul 2005 10:27  
[59] afaik 55 waveform combination is inaudible on old sid (6501) maybe there is the problem?. The rest about different version of players in older Goat Tracker 2 release version you can find in csdb thread discussion. The latest version should be okay.
CreaMD
[63] :
07. Jul 2005 12:00  
3rd song added.
CreaMD
[64] :
07. Jul 2005 13:15  
...All of the above mentioned songs are done in GT? Compared to the other files, #3 sounds like a totally different player.
Lama Anagarika Govinda
[65] :
08. Jul 2005 08:46  
4th tune added.
CreaMD
[66] :
08. Jul 2005 13:13  
Tune #2 sounds like one of those they compose using SDI :D
[67] :
08. Jul 2005 15:13  
Ghosttrackers - very nice, makes me wanna haunt some Dutchmen
rndl
[68] :
08. Jul 2005 15:31  
No guessing /or else/ deleting! ;-)
CreaMD
[69] :
08. Jul 2005 17:10  
I know all the composers sofar ;)
[70] :
08. Jul 2005 18:10  
Guessing should only be allowed if you are competing... :)
Hein
[71] :
08. Jul 2005 18:21  
Then this discussion should be called "Composers only" :P
[72] :
08. Jul 2005 18:29  
Competing people only, you dont have to be a musician to enjoy Cadavers tool, as long as it can keep you busy for a few hours.
Hein
[73] :
08. Jul 2005 20:21  
Ive never played much with any editor with tables for params ;-)
Raf
[74] :
08. Jul 2005 23:40  
Nice tunes so far, folks! The composers are pretty obvious, as usual. Except maybe for tune #3, but I got a hunch who that could be. Keep it up!
[75] :
09. Jul 2005 17:18  
Btw. if you wonder why tune #3 sounds like ADSR-bugging, it uses a fairly perverted wavetable:
09 <- Note init frame, testbit+gateon
80 <- Gate off
41 <- On again.. I guess SID doesnt like this very much
[76] :
09. Jul 2005 19:33  
Replaced the Everlasting Annoyance.sid by fixed version. Thanx to Cadaver for help. (if anyone thinks that it was unfair to improve that tune, then please apologise our behaviour but one of the important goals of this compo is to help potential new users of Goat Tracker 2 to learn healthy and effective composing practices). File is about 1kb shorter btw. ;-)
CreaMD
[77] :
09. Jul 2005 22:56  
go ahead, compose more, i know those 4 entries inside out now
mere spectator
[78] :
12. Jul 2005 10:25  
5th tune added. I explained the purpose of compo in personal letter to its author, but as I didnt have rule about "sending only state of the art tunes" I cant do anything else than release it. There is 6th tune announced, just Im waiting for its author who is going to extend it a bit.
CreaMD
[79] :
12. Jul 2005 12:14  
Truly avantgardistic. :)
[80] :
12. Jul 2005 12:36  
Actually I dont think its that bad.. it shows how to achieve some wacky sounds and annoy your audience :) Nothing but state-of-the-art funk/jazz tunes would be boring, after all
[81] :
12. Jul 2005 12:45  
5th entry is ca. 2:55 long - just listen carefully and youll find that out. :)
rndl
[82] :
12. Jul 2005 13:27  
[81] Thanx for help. I was in a pub yesterday amd earned a moderate hangover.. so when it started to hurt I took headphones off.
CreaMD
[83] :
12. Jul 2005 14:08  
Would have liked some more funky jazzy tunes.. with some summer BBQ vibes :)
[84] :
12. Jul 2005 14:56  
Gerardje, write something like that yourself, wouldnt that be great. :)
rndl
[85] :
12. Jul 2005 15:27  
The songlength detector says that tune 5 loops at 2:38. The other songlengths are pretty close, though.
I know, I know, splitting hairs again...
[86] :
12. Jul 2005 15:35  
automation. bueh. you dont have that spirit of challenge, do you.
rndl
[87] :
12. Jul 2005 18:17  
[85] [86] ;-)))
CreaMD
[88] :
12. Jul 2005 18:31  
6th tune added.
CreaMD
[89] :
12. Jul 2005 18:38  
7/8, well, who could it be. :D
rndl
[90] :
12. Jul 2005 19:15  
I cannot figure it out..
Hein
[91] :
12. Jul 2005 19:21  
[80] When are we going to enjoy a doom-metal piece from you??
Hein
[92] :
12. Jul 2005 19:40  
Hmm, would overlong lowpass filtered powerchords be very entertaining? Especially when there is realistically not enough memory to have a low ominous voice singing about doom over the world for more than a few lines :)
[93] :
12. Jul 2005 19:51  
While were at different styles of metal music, "Ledermaus" reminds me of one pagan-metal band from Poland: Perunwit. Exactly their sense of structure and melody.
rndl
[94] :
12. Jul 2005 19:59  
[92] Some deep grunting would do.. But I admit, the slow doommetal speed could get annoying for some of us neurotic sidlisteners.
[93] Structure? Melody? different harmonies? I must say the 1 note chords are more interesting than my search for the perfect 2 finger chord (introduced by Drax)..
Hein
[95] :
12. Jul 2005 20:02  
True doom metal has to have clean vocals.. Solemn & grim.
[96] :
13. Jul 2005 10:27  
Very nice tunes sofar... A few hours left before my vacation starts.. will prob load up Goat-tracker this evening ;)
[97] :
15. Jul 2005 14:46  
Atleast 1-2 tunes are coming until the deadline. Also Im shifting it to end of the weekend (unofficially).. lazy summer... and btw. there is poly-tracker compo coming..
CreaMD
[98] :
15. Jul 2005 17:57  
7th tune added..
CreaMD
[99] :
15. Jul 2005 18:37  
Cool tune, that 7th one. Especially the sounds are very spacy...
Hein
[100] :
15. Jul 2005 18:45  
[97] Poly-tracker compo, goody.. some cut n paste sample work for a hot summer..
Hein
[101] :
15. Jul 2005 19:45  
eh eh, maybe ill try something with samples ]:->
jammer
[102] :
15. Jul 2005 21:10  
Did some deletion...
CreaMD
[103] :
15. Jul 2005 21:11  
...and happy Birthday Michal!
CreaMD
[104] :
15. Jul 2005 22:00  
jaikes.. :/
Hein
[105] :
16. Jul 2005 15:58  
7th tune: Yea... big one... another Martin Walker tribute, at least until 2:40 ;)
Roman: thank you!
rndl
[106] :
16. Jul 2005 19:08  
Hmm, when is the voting? ;)
Nata
[107] :
16. Jul 2005 21:24  
postponed I want to have more tunes ;-)
CreaMD
[108] :
17. Jul 2005 10:10  
Ahh, ok!
But wasnt deadline on "15.july 2005"? ;)
Nata
[109] :
17. Jul 2005 21:00  
wow.. no wonder my hihats are so loud, bad refering in the wavetable, no gateon.. stupid.
Hein
[110] :
17. Jul 2005 21:05  
tough luck, it doesnt sound bad anyway ;)
jammer
[111] :
18. Jul 2005 14:06  
Isnt it a high time to ring the bell?
boy george
[112] :
18. Jul 2005 14:37  
gong!
jammer
[113] :
18. Jul 2005 15:14  
Adrian..
Hein
[114] :
18. Jul 2005 17:15  
Oh mama, cant you tell, oh mama, cant you tell
if you want my love will ring my bell?
/Sator and Lili & Sussie 1988
Anders Carlsson
[115] :
18. Jul 2005 22:48  
New tune will be addied in few moments.
CreaMD
[116] :
19. Jul 2005 00:33  
I thought tune 8 was going to Blue Monday meets Kikstart.
Anders Carlsson
[117] :
19. Jul 2005 08:56  
Nice nice nice...
Jazzcat
[118] :
19. Jul 2005 22:55  
no more tunez , eh?
Raf
[119] :
20. Jul 2005 06:18  
some nice tunes there!
sauhund
[120] :
20. Jul 2005 13:10  
hope the next c64.sk sidcompo will have more tunes :)
CJ Rayne
[121] :
20. Jul 2005 13:32  
[120] In c64.sk genereal SID compo I ususally worry about "too much" tunes ;-) Anyway I also plan to compose a tune for this compo, but mastering the editor to my satisfaction is harder than I thought.
CreaMD
[122] :
20. Jul 2005 13:46  
ah, thats why the deadline is postponed ;)
rndl
[123] :
20. Jul 2005 14:03  
[122] that was because of song [8.] now its because of me playing dead bug... ;-)) gimme some time.
CreaMD
[124] :
20. Jul 2005 14:04  
thats not fair :P now everyone will recognize his tune as the last one :P
jammer
[125] :
20. Jul 2005 14:05  
life isnt fair in general
unemployed philosopher
[126] :
20. Jul 2005 14:12  
[124] I cant compete anyway. If there will be a tune it will be a bonus tune.
CreaMD
[127] :
20. Jul 2005 14:13  
Which leads me to conclusion that Ill launch the voting today in the late evening.
CreaMD
[128] :
20. Jul 2005 15:19  
If you write two songs or more, you can include both under the premises at most one was from the same composer, and then it will be harder to tell which one was yours. :-)
Anders Carlsson
[129] :
20. Jul 2005 15:42  
[128] will you help me? ;-)
CreaMD
[130] :
20. Jul 2005 18:39  
I hope we get enough time to vote..
Hein
[131] :
20. Jul 2005 18:51  
;-)))
CreaMD
[132] :
22. Jul 2005 00:24  
2 more tunes coming soon ;-) (and that will be all. promise ;-)
CreaMD
[133] :
22. Jul 2005 11:17  
10 tunes... voting started. No bonus tunes sorry. I?ll exclude my tune (If there is any ;-) after voting.
CreaMD
[134] :
22. Jul 2005 11:53  
Can we add our humble opinions too???
Hein
[135] :
22. Jul 2005 12:15  
The order of votes should be as it appears on the GT2 compo page, or should it rather be alphabetical?
rndl
[136] :
22. Jul 2005 12:28  
as the tunes are ordered.. the votes should be ordered. Yes add your humble opinions. Comments are welcome.
CreaMD
[137] :
22. Jul 2005 19:51  
Nice tunes... hard to vote for a winner...
Some are technically better, but some I just like the tune of better ...
hmmf...
Mog
[138] :
23. Jul 2005 01:41  
not too hard to vote what wouldnt win id say.
props to all who actually managed to get marvellous sounds out of goat tracker.
person
[139] :
23. Jul 2005 14:14  
well its nothing difficult to squeeze out such marvellous sounds - gt is rally powerfull editor :P maybe one of the best ones :D
jammer
[140] :
24. Jul 2005 00:32  
For those wanting to hear them on the c64
http://iancoog.altervista.org/hid/GoatTracker2Compo.rar
iAN CooG/HF
[141] :
24. Jul 2005 01:11  
[140] Thank you. Any bugs while playing on real sids?
CreaMD
[142] :
24. Jul 2005 12:07  
11 votesheets.. until now
CreaMD
[143] :
24. Jul 2005 14:42  
13 votesheet..
CreaMD
[144] :
24. Jul 2005 21:26  
15 votesheets
CreaMD
[145] :
24. Jul 2005 22:30  
[OT]
CreaMD, plz reply to the second email Id sent you (but your mail filter trashed like crap :D).
Luca/FIRE
[146] :
25. Jul 2005 10:08  
[145] Next compo is PolyTracker compo. (4 channel sample tracker). Starting middle of August.
CreaMD
[147] :
25. Jul 2005 10:51  
18votesheets
CreaMD
[148] :
25. Jul 2005 13:13  
anyone tried polytracker yet? can you mix samples and sid sound? does it sound like amiga-mods? (i didnt like the sound of amiga-mods very much)
[149] :
25. Jul 2005 13:28  
[148] there will be demotunes released soonish. You will hear for yourself. It?s 4 channel digi. No SID oscillators.
CreaMD
[150] :
25. Jul 2005 13:42  
It sounds like Noisetracker (was it Noisetracker?...) with 8 channels. You know, samples but with certain lo-fi touch ;)
rndl
[151] :
26. Jul 2005 10:25  
19 votesheets
CreaMD
[152] :
26. Jul 2005 20:08  
Should composers vote for other composers? ;)
Looser
[153] :
26. Jul 2005 20:08  
I like how all the comments on this page have become strong and red now. :)
Anders Carlsson
[154] :
26. Jul 2005 20:10  
Yeah, very nice!!
Nata
[155] :
26. Jul 2005 20:13  
I hope we get these 11 more votes ;)
Nata
[156] :
26. Jul 2005 20:46  
[152] Go on. Be kind ;)
rndl
[157] :
26. Jul 2005 20:55  
ah I forgot to close tag.. ;-)
CreaMD
[158] :
27. Jul 2005 06:34  
Done !
After several days of listening...
Thanx to all composers ...
Will be fun to see how its done.
Mog
[159] :
27. Jul 2005 14:23  
Ill fill in a vote sheet tonight, after work
No-XS
[160] :
27. Jul 2005 14:28  
Im really interested, how GT2-compo-tunes sound on a real machine.
Maybe a HardSID-owner (6581/8580) could make some nice ogg-files (not mp3!) and put them online.
Nata
[161] :
28. Jul 2005 05:20  
[160]: i can do this later today for the 6581 tunes, but i can only do 8580 if I find a working one here (which might happen). of course, hopefully someone else will by then, but if they dont, ill find it
[162] :
28. Jul 2005 05:28  
[161]: it was sitting under your bed. wake up first, then post to c64.sk. now get back to recording (should have files uploaded in an hour or so)
[163] :
28. Jul 2005 06:13  
[164] :
28. Jul 2005 13:22  
thanks, alih. really interesting how the high pass filter with high cutoff values behaves incorrectly with reSID 8580 (the sound is too muddy).
rndl
[165] :
28. Jul 2005 13:40  
while were at it, when will the results be published?
rndl
[166] :
28. Jul 2005 18:47  
[163] interesting result.. :) good job, alih
Hein
[167] :
29. Jul 2005 10:30  
As I expected, reSID output is closer If reSID-iterpolation is on.
Unfortunately its off again by default :_(
Nata
[168] :
29. Jul 2005 11:13  
Well IMO, its wrong to have a program that doesnt work right on 300-400MHz machines by default :)
[169] :
29. Jul 2005 13:00  
happy birthday Lasse!
*approaching Slovakia with a baseball bat mumbling rezzzultzzz*
rndl
[170] :
29. Jul 2005 13:15  
[169] I was approaching a proposal for complex project of huge proportions. And after enormous battle of extensive dimensions I finally succeeded.. now I have only one problem... should I go to bed, or wait for another night..
CreaMD
[171] :
29. Jul 2005 14:33  
[170] Say no more. I know what you feel - sleep well ;)
rndl
[172] :
29. Jul 2005 14:48  
For the people who think my tune is too short; just play it twice :)
No-XS
[173] :
29. Jul 2005 14:53  
Stargate is not too short.
:P
rndl
[174] :
29. Jul 2005 15:49  
Sixpack of Cola is not too short. :P
[175] :
29. Jul 2005 16:05  
[168] Well, maybe you are right, Cadaver.
But on my Computer reSID interpolation is always on.;)
Unfortunately SIDplay2/w has even no option to change interpolation off/on :(
Nata
[176] :
29. Jul 2005 18:09  
I think resid is closer to a real sid without interpolation.. the crispy filters should be crispy, and not smooth..
Hein
[177] :
29. Jul 2005 19:18  
Interpolation should in theory reveal more accurately the sound reSID is producing .. so maybe it exposes the flaws better?
[178] :
29. Jul 2005 19:31  
CreaMD still asleep? ;-)
[179] :
30. Jul 2005 13:52  
[176] Well, ....... ;-)
Nata
[180] :
30. Jul 2005 14:08  
223 2. I?ll Be a Pimp in Cabrini Green (when I grow up)/Randall 2:40
207 7. My Own Hyperspace/Jammer 4:13
195 10. Sixpack Of Cola/No-XS
191 1. Stargate/Nata/Samar 3:35
187 6. On a sanction from CIA/Cadaver 2:05
182 4. Ghost trackers/Hein 2:10
136 3. Everlasting anoyance/Richard Bayliss 1:32
100 8. Kikstart/Rafal 3:30
73 5. Ledermaus 2:55
Inexplicable Obsession By Vengeance (cover of Vengeance)/CreaMD 1:50
CreaMD
[181] :
30. Jul 2005 14:22  
Ey, thats unfair! :) How many votes did your tune get, Roman?
Ghost Trackers - TOO LOW, its one of the best sids Ive ever heard...
rndl
[182] :
30. Jul 2005 14:24  
[181] ;-) Congratulations for 1st place Randall
CreaMD
[183] :
30. Jul 2005 16:14  
Congrats, Randall! You deserved it :)
Indeed, Ghosttrackers is way to low, awesome tune imho. Hein, you rock!
[184] :
30. Jul 2005 16:20  
Congrats to Randall, and thanks to all the SIDsickies that joined the compo.
Luca/FIRE
[185] :
30. Jul 2005 16:25  
Randalls tune was my number 1, well done Randall..
Hein
[186] :
30. Jul 2005 16:44  
yo all, than-q! *smoker*
Id like to see full results now (who made ledermaus? how many points Roman got?) with some comments, if there were any...
rndl
[187] :
30. Jul 2005 16:48  
And Linus man, why didnt you participate? Too busy with the mini melodies project? (which sounds very promising, BTW - everybody, go and check it out)
rndl
[188] :
30. Jul 2005 16:49  
Romans tune isnt included in the demofiles. I thought it was a package deal.. bah, I like that tune, even if its a cover.
Hein
[189] :
30. Jul 2005 16:52  
Like I explained to CreaMD, I dont want to get infringement charges in case CRL wants to update their games to next-gen triple A projects. Other covers were dropped too, except GhostTrackers where I think the Ghostbusters melody isnt really 1-to-1 and besides its short..
[190] :
30. Jul 2005 16:53  
hehe.. ok, the nice icon is a good compensation.
Hein
[191] :
30. Jul 2005 16:54  
But I guess Im allowed to post this link now - includes everything: http://www.studiostyle.sk/alldata.zip
(admins, remove it if it isnt OK)
[192] :
30. Jul 2005 17:02  
its okay.. I would forgot that also other tunes should be spread in .sng format ;-)
CreaMD
[193] :
30. Jul 2005 17:03  
but lets check if it doesnt contain some sensitive info (some emails are copied in txt)
CreaMD
[194] :
30. Jul 2005 17:06  
[193] no sensitive info.. feel free to grab the file to get oher .sng files. [186] coming (ahem) soon...
CreaMD
[195] :
30. Jul 2005 19:12  
Ghost Trackers - WAY TOO LOW, it?s one of the best sids I?ve heard recently.. Says more about the voters I think.. congrats to NO-XS,, nice one
GH05
[196] :
30. Jul 2005 23:27  
Hmm. Well, I tried to make Goat Tracker V2.1 sound like my DMC style, but wtf? :D
Richard
[197] :
31. Jul 2005 02:05  
@ [186]
I made ledermaus
thought it was worth a try...Was my first try on SID-music...
Also thought Kikstart would place better, great remix
Nevertheless, I think there were some great, but too conventional tunes :P
GT, great tool, have to learn much about the tables though :)
[198] :
31. Jul 2005 02:37  
@[196] Well that was definitely the more dull & stagnant side of your style. You know youve done much better in the past, so what do you expect?
[199] :
31. Jul 2005 10:11  
My favourite tune is Everlasting Anoyance, really nice oldskool-song!
Nata
[200] :
31. Jul 2005 15:38  
[187] Yep, been busy with production and distribution issues but everything is fine now. Looking forward to the polly tracker compo, see ya there :)
[201] :
31. Jul 2005 16:37  
@197: I dont think that "My Own Hyperspace" or "Ghost Trackers" were conventional (especially the latter - learn from it how to break the rules skillfully). On the contrary, "Ledermaus" was, somehow. Check "Into the Sunset" from the last Sidcompo, for example.
rndl
[202] :
01. Aug 2005 01:13  
@201
Okay, I agree, these tunes have some great and clever parts
but then I guess I am not a conventional sidfan :)
For example "My own Hyperspace", I like it untill the main melody starts.
In my eyes this "main instrument" is too high, ugly (sorry) and just not what I prefer.
IMHO this kind of instrument is very often used in sid-songs.
Maybe it is the typical sid sound which everybody likes and Im making me enemys now...
But hey its just my opinion and Im a rookie on this sector. ;)
So, nevermind
(btw where can I find "into the sunset")
[203] :
01. Aug 2005 01:23  
[202] in VARIOUS/S-Z/Six/Into_The_Sunset.sid
its a bit the same style as your ledermaus, including nice alt saxophone..
Hein
[204] :
01. Aug 2005 13:14  
Roman, publish the full results & comments please and lets close this event...
rndl
[205] :
07. Aug 2005 08:29  
I liked all....
One way or the other...
I first liked one, than after several runs I favoured a new, while voting I suddenly changed which to give 9.
Unluckely my entry attempt failed, next time maybe :-)
MutationOfGob
[206] :
07. Aug 2005 08:43  
sorry to bug about it, but as I write there are 3 different versions of the songs (listening point of view) .
Sidplayer,GT and Vice emu ?
MutationOfGob
[207] :
07. Aug 2005 19:51  
Roman, are you busy? This event/compo looks so half finished and abandonded...
[208] :
08. Aug 2005 12:40  
hmm... how about adding the compo to CSDB?
Raf
[209] :
14. Oct 2005 04:56  
"Results coming up soon... "
Soon = ?
mog
[210] :
14. Oct 2005 09:02  
What is soon.. a golden bee..
creamd
[211] :
14. Oct 2005 15:01  
found the list, Argh
Ive been wondering for months...
mog
[212] :
14. Oct 2005 19:36  
ahh.. ;-)
CreaMD
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